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Genetically Modified………People?

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Are we living in a time where humans are GM?

It’s Olympics time and the athletes are in and/or outed with the usual suspects, drugs, marijuana and then, what’s this, for not being Politically correct. The event is uneventful so far, as in no terrorist activities. So what’s news this time? A child athlete with über strength?  Apparently that’s the charge laid out by US swimming coach toward a Chinese swimmer. “She can’t do that, it’s impossible”, “they must have modified her genes”. Well, that’s a new kind of doping charge. Set aside the world’s highest population density and a state controlled training program and it might be believable from a country whose history of duplicity toward  all things technological is well-known. The same thing could have been said about Micheal Phelps last time around, though, but this year he has proved very human. GM? I don’t think so.

How about the president of the US? No man in his right state could spend tens of trillions of dollars destroying “his” country. No man could stand publicly and lie so often and use his power to manipulate media to push his agendas like the POTUS does without GM, could he? No man in his right mind could suddenly flip his whole world view like the flip of a switch could he? Or how about the presidential candidate nomination apparent? How could he change his world view to be a total opposite of his opponent, even turning his back on his religion, claiming statehood for Israel? All after he becomes a candidate? Surely, it must be GM. Or is it simply evil men in politics?

One thing is for sure, the world is an evil place and gaining ground. The mass murder at a temple, in Milwaukee, just an hour from me is getting pretty close to home. What fuels this in a country of “milk and honey”, formerly blessed beyond measure? A long, long time ago God created the first humans and they were perfect in every way. They could walk with God, talk with God, look at God, so what happened? Evil entered the world in the form of a snake, a bite of an apple, disobedience and genes were modified. As man multiplied that sin gene has been passed from one generation to the next, continuing unabated. And so we arrive where we are at, in the present, the world at the brink. A world full of evil.

But there is a hope. Hope to repair that genetic error. Hope to get out from under that curse. God has given us a chance, a way out, by sending His own Son, who’s human form died and was resurrected in a glorious, non-GM state. Who was given as the sacrifice to undo the mutation brought by sin. All of us, including you dear reader, are in this state of mutation and sin. But God offers us the way out, healing, and a future life with Him. It’s up to you, dear reader, to accept this offer because God has brought you here, right now, at this moment, to read this and make this offer. Are you still a mutant? Accept the offer now, don’t wait. You don’t want to be a mutant forever, do you?

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Author: godsfingers

I'm a musician and worship leader, intent on following wherever God leads and directs me, with His leading's in the Spirit and others bonking me on the head ( hopefully not much of the latter). My life experiences are in blue collar and white collar (engineering) employment, political office, lay ministries, national competition in track and cross country and most importantly marriage and raising a family. God has given me a unique set of skills and character to serve Him and a passion for doing it.

13 thoughts on “Genetically Modified………People?

  1. Ever wonder ”if it was a Snake or any form there of “…Eve did not find it strange that ”it could talk her language”…talk period..Eve and Adam were not stupid they had spiritual knowledge in their little toe than we do with all that is revealed to us today…yet these two were able to not only as we do, talk to the animals, but the animals could talk back…”Very interesting to say the least”…(smile)..Notice it took Adam over 900 years for him to die..amazing..that’s a lot of years…’course many would rather wrap their brain around the concept that God is not as smart as the people are today so therefore ‘his years’ are not as long as ours…(foolish children)..just checking the first few chapters of Genesis tells us that Adam was created in God’s image, Seth was created in ‘Adam’s image’…(thus Adam had taken on the ‘spiritual nature of Satan’) Ohh Glory but thru the shed blood of our Beloved Savior Jesus Christ we have taken on ‘the spiritual nature of our Heavenly Father..God is so good to us..
    So we ‘have the what the world calls..super human strength…(smile) we can ‘do all things thru Christ which strengthens us’…No we can’t leap tall buildings or out run a locomotive, or stop a bullet with our hands..but we can share The Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ that others may be saved from Eternal Damnation, ie delivered from the Kingdom of Darkness into God’s Eternal Everlasting Life…Wow..(smile)

    Very interesting and enjoyable Post Brother Ant! (smile)

  2. your theses is correct but the approach the church world has taken to achieve this converson has proven faulty in every way.having a form of godleness but denying the power.

    • Yes, I agree. In the true form of bureaucracy the mission gets replaced by the plan that gets replaced by the organization that gets replaced by the despot. Sue and I were talking and we believe the redeemed church, around the world, will be driven underground operating in the spirit and power of Jesus, until He comes, as originally intended.

      • Amen …scripture at it’s finest…where Christians will be…”run for the hills boys”..you’ll get a ‘little holpen’…check out the scripture that tells us about ”Holpen…it is = 1/2 hope + 1/2 help = hang in there till Jesus returns..
        And by the way …Every time I sign on here and see that picture, it is such a beautiful serene picture..thanks for putting it on here…It’s so pretty!

  3. Well, your article sounds good, but is neither factually or Scripturally sound, just like your “accept the offer” link. (Please show me in the Scriptures where anyone was told to “accept Jesus as your personal savior … “, etc. It ‘taint there. There is a specific command and process mandated in the Scriptures to attain salvation, but that ain’t it.)

    There was a recent report about the Institute For Reproductive Medicine in St. Barnabas, NJ that researchers led by “Fertility Engineer” Jacques Cohen, genetically modified 30 kids from 3 different parents (2 female; 1 male), 15 born within the last 3 years. they said this was the ” … first case of human germ line genetic modification resulting in normal healthy children.”

    Got that? FIRST case. What makes you think this is new or isolated?

    Regarding Adam and Eve talking to animals, the word “Serpent” was translated from the Hebrew word: “Nachash”, which means enchanter, and one who whispers or “hisses” like a snake. It wasn’t a talking snake.

    • “Please show me in the Scriptures where anyone was told to “accept Jesus as your personal savior”

      “25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26 and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?””

      I don’t see anything plural there, sounds personal to me.

      “Got that? FIRST case. What makes you think this is new or isolated?”

      “Well, that’s a new kind of doping charge.” Sounds like a first to me.

      ” the word “Serpent” was translated from the Hebrew word: “Nachash”, which means enchanter, and one who whispers or “hisses” like a snake. It wasn’t a talking snake.”

      “3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ”

      Ya know, I tried hissing that, it didn’t work. I believe the word is “said”.

      I encourage constructive criticism, but trash talk needs to be at a minimum or non-existent.

      • “25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26 and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?””

        You’re taking this out of context.

        First of all, He’s speaking to the woman at the well in Samaria, a descendant of Jacob/Israel in the former capitol of The House of Israel prior to the Assyrian captivity, which had been cast away in divorce from The Great I Am, who became flesh and dwelt among us (Jeremiah. 3. Divorce at vs. 8. The House of Judah was later divorced in 70 A.D. at the destruction of Jerusalem and scattering of those of that House that rejected Him as the Messiah). He didn’t say: “Accept me as your personal savior and invite me into your heart”, as is so often claimed as the way to salvation.

        Repentance and full water immersion (Baptism) for the remission of sins (which is breaking of His Law, see 1 John 3: 4) is required (e.g., Acts 2: 38, as well as many others).

        Ezekiel 37: 15 – 23 prophesied both Houses would be rejoined and 24 – 28 states that Christ will be their king and make a new covenant them. Hebrews 8: 7 – 12, quoting Jeremiah 31, tells exactly whom the New Covenant is made with. That’s the re-marriage of Israel to the Great I Am. Revelations 21: 9 – 12 tells exactly who is the Lamb’s wife, i.e. Israel. (Not the impostors in the middle east Rev. 2:9 & 3:9)

        The Great I Am had to die and resurrect from the grave in order to re-marry His People, or He would be in violation of His Law on Divorce Deuteronomy 24: 1 -5. We, His People, die through repentance, confession of Christ the King as savior and redeemer having paid for those sins, and full immersion baptism.

        “Those who are baptized in Christ are buried with Christ”.

        Why do you think He’s called the Kinsmen Redeemer?

        “Well, that’s a new kind of doping charge.” Sounds like a first to me.”

        First case ” … resulting in normal healthy children.” I should have included that part of the quote, sorry.

        If it’s the FIRST case resulting in normal, healthy children, doesn’t that tell you there were others that didn’t result in …?

        Genetic modification has been going on a lot longer than you think, not only of crops, but of animals and people as well. You are apparently just unaware of it.

        ““3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ”

        Ya know, I tried hissing that, it didn’t work. I believe the word is “said””

        “Wild animals” is a bad translation. Beast of the field is in many Bibles. In Jonah 3: 7 – 8, beasts of the field are described as having hands and crying out to God, more importantly, able to repent.

        Do “wild animals” have hands, cry out to God and repent?

        Keep in mind that this is long after the Garden, where you claim animals and people conversed, but subsequently lost that ability. Were these “throwbacks” ?

        This isn’t “trash talk”. It’s a rebuke of your factual and Scriptural claims, which the Bible says we should do when warranted, does it not?

        Now, if you’d like like me to provide sources where you can go to verify these things for yourself, let me know and I’ll be happy to oblige.

        • But you’re rebuking with falseness…

          I’m not sure where you’re coming from or even going, except some need to get into an argument and you’ve missed the entire point of the message. You put out traces of replacement theology and other theology based on a dead religion and then go off on a tangent. The Bible says the serpent “said” to Eve, which part did you miss? They talked, whether by hand signals, whispers or smoke signals, they talked. End of discussion.

          “The Great I Am had to die and resurrect from the grave in order to re-marry His People, or He would be in violation of His Law on Divorce Deuteronomy 24: 1 -5.”

          What?????? God never died, can’t die. Any notion that man can kill God is preposterous. If God died, then who does the resurrecting?

          ““Wild animals” is a bad translation. Beast of the field is in many Bibles. In Jonah 3: 7 – 8, beasts of the field are described as having hands and crying out to God, more importantly, able to repent. ” What are you saying? This is Jonah 3:7-8;

          “7 Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh:

          “By the decree of the king and his nobles:

          Do not let any man or beast, herd or flock, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink. 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. “

          You repeated an error on the GM statement. I mention a new type of doping charge and you again go off on a tangent about some frankenstein doctor GMing children. What’s that got to do with sports? Yes, I’m quite aware of GM crops and their proliferation.

          I see you have a need to argue and I won’t allow it here. This wasn’t a theological piece. If you want to argue theology find a theological piece that’s open for debate.

          I will pray for you though, that you will come out of your pressed and polished dead theology and come into a relationship with a living Christ and Savior.

          • (Now don’t worry, this will be the last comment from me, unless you contact me wanting more comment or information.)

            A tangent and need to argue?

            I merely challenged your claims, your un-scriptural “Accept the offer” link, showed you and your audience (which your doctrines are leading astray, like poor “Andrea”) that Genetic Modification on people has been going on longer than you think, that it could very well be the case with the 16 year old girl from China (that’s what it had to do with sports) and showed you (and your audience) from the Scriptures where your “salvation” doctrine is wrong and leads astray.

            You didn’t like that, called it “traces of replacement theology and other theology based on a dead religion” and “triumphantly” proclaim “I won’t allow it here”.

            You also appear to deny the Deity of Christ. The first chapter of John is dedicated to show that He indeed is God incarnate, but you boldly proclaim with great indignation:

            “What?????? God never died, can’t die. Any notion that man can kill God is preposterous. If God died, then who does the resurrecting?”

            By this proclamation of yours, you show that either you merely lack the knowledge on this particular truth or you are of those “many false prophets” that Christ, as well as the Apostles, warned us of.

            I sincerely hope it’s the former, rather than the later. But, even if it is that you are merely ignorant of this particular truth, you (as well as those who adhere to the doctrine you teach) are in danger of destruction. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 3: 6.

            I offered to provide the sources where you could check these things out for yourself, but you are apparently not interested (nor poor “Andrea”). That indicates to me that you do not have a love of the truth.

            Remember what the Scripture warns to those who do not have a love of the truth. “And for this reason, God will send upon them a deluding influence so they might believe what is false.” : 2 Thessalonians 2: 10 – 12.

            As I said, you’ll not here from me on this subject unless you request it.

            P.S. for “Andrea”: The Scripturally mandated way of Salvation can hardly be classified as “straining at a gnat.”

        • Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

          Time is so short we are called to be Christians…not “Nit-pickers”

    • I feel sorry for you…I really do…you remind me of one that has been laying around for a long time, neither dead nor alive..that’s sad, truly sad!

  4. To my readers,

    Apparently Chris has an axe to grind and can’t tell the difference between literal, theological interpretation and the ability to freelance. No, I’m not pushing some false prophet theology or ideology. He seems to take some offense to actually being able to have a personal relationship with Jesus, to his loss.

    Yes, Jesus is God incarnate. A human child was born to a human woman born in sin. The human body was killed by hanging on a cross and resurrected on the third day with his glorified body without sin, the promise we all have as believers. God did not die. And for the nit-picker, the great I AM is not identified as Jesus.

    and a note, if Chris is watching. For the third time, this is the first time a charge of GM doping in athletes has been made.

    • Some people just don’t want the truth, it in and of itself demands choice…and as it does to us all daily, it also puts a mirror in front of us to see just what we choose to believe of it as we also choose what we reject to continue to substantiate all our rebellions and sins against Almighty God…sad but true..Chris is like one in a crowd, he refuses to go along with the Truth and the proof of what is, so it’s easier to ”appear” as wise in all counts, including all manner no matter what religion and/or faith is the subject up to and including Space travel as well as Neurophysiology. Sad, I do pray this one also will receive the gift of repentance.

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