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Roaring on the Inside

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(Updated author’s note: If you feel strongly about this then let them know by leaving a comment at the Newsboys explanation)   See also I believe..

My wife and I have recently had discussion over her concern about the new Newsboys song God’s not Dead. She said they were saying “roaring like a lion” and we all know that there are only three such mentions in the Bible, the most familiar is “the devil walks around like a roaring lion, seeking who he can devour“, though all three give an evil deadly presence to the reference. (correction: Hosea 11:10 does mention God roaring like a lion, but not in this context. God roars to an unrepentant nation, who comes back humbly. For God to be continually roaring on the inside means an unrepentant heart, holding the form of religion and continuing in sin. That is what the emerging church of apostasy is, and maybe that is where the Newsboys are headed.)

Now we have this song:

God’s Not Dead

Let love explode And bring the dead to life A love so bold To see a revolution somehow
Let love explode And bring the dead to life A love so bold To bring a revolution somehow
Now I’m lost in your freedom And this world I’ll overcome
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion
He’s roaring He’s roaring He’s roaring like a lion Let hope arise And make the darkness hide My faith is dead I need a resurrection somehow
Now.. Now I’m lost in your freedom Now.. And this world I’ll overcome
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion
He’s roaring He’s roaring He’s roaring like a lion
He’s roaring He’s roaring
Let Heaven roar And fire fall Come shake the ground With the sound of revival
Let Heaven roar And fire fall Come shake the ground With the sound of revival…
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion
My God’s not dead He’s surely alive He’s living on the inside Roaring like a lion…
He’s roaring He’s roaring He’s roaring like a lion…
Roaring like a lion

Read more: NEWSBOYS – GOD’S NOT DEAD LYRICS http://www.metrolyrics.com/gods-not-dead-lyrics-newsboys.html#ixzz1sVafWb16
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Sounds kind of cool except that a roaring of a lion is all hot air. The roar is meant to threaten, intimidate, or paralyze the intended prey. I’m pretty uncomfortable with the notion that there are kids and adults making this confession with their mouths. God doesn’t walk around like a roaring lion, or live on the inside roaring like a lion. He isn’t full of hot air. God is compassionate, yet just. He is loving yet firm. He is all wise yet speaks to us in the simplest of terms. Jesus is the Lion of Judah, the Alpha and Omega and you ask Him to come into your life as your helper, healer, Redeemer and it’s His Holy Spirit that’s on the inside.

bashta album cover

abridged image from the album cover

The song is written by Daniel Bashta who’s website homepage leaves me concerned, why is the guy with the lion’s head standing on a pile of skulls forming America? I’m not old fashioned, but imagery full of skulls while claiming to be worship music is a stretch. As a Christian musician and worship leader it is always a point of discernment when songs fail to acknowledge Jesus, and this song clearly does. Who is “my god”? He could be anyone or anything, in particular, the devil himself without you even knowing it. Many walk around deceived and become deceived through little doors until they no longer know where they are. The emerging church is very much that, dishing out eye candy while stripping the power of the Holy Spirit from their words. Do you find yourself saying things to agree with everybody, do you really know the word of God anymore, or did you ever? Plug yourself into His word, seek His truth and cast away lies and deceit. We haven’t time to play around anymore. Don’t allow yourself to be part of the deception.

As for this song, it has a good place on the shelf or maybe out the back door….

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Author: godsfingers

I'm a musician and worship leader, intent on following wherever God leads and directs me, with His leading's in the Spirit and others bonking me on the head ( hopefully not much of the latter). My life experiences are in blue collar and white collar (engineering) employment, political office, lay ministries, national competition in track and cross country and most importantly marriage and raising a family. God has given me a unique set of skills and character to serve Him and a passion for doing it.

47 thoughts on “Roaring on the Inside

  1. Thank you for sharing this with me. It really makes you think…

    • I felt the same way about that song. Jesus is the Lion of Judah, but it is not the vision of the song’s meaning to me. It is Satan who is “roaring like a lion” as written. And on the Inside? Hiding in the “darkness”? Deceptive to say the least!

      • Actually, it was my wife who brought it up to me. I was working outside with the radio blaring and she asked, ” did they say roaring like a lion?”. I really did hear the words, so since I like Newsboys I made up some excuse, like she didn’t hear right (I’m the one with the hearing aids =O ). Then I looked up the lyrics. I was pretty unimpressed. When I wrote the Christian radio station, they made some excuse of creative license…

      • The only places in scripture that it speaks of God roaring like a lion is in reference to his wrath on man. It is something to be feared. It is written that men cower when God roars like a lion. These song writers are using it in a disrespectful manner.

  2. Reblogged this on Montana Truth Seekers Ministry and commented:
    Worth the read

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  4. I did some more research on this and I have to say that there are some examples of the bible referring to God roaring like a lion. Hosea 11:10. I should have researched it better before I jumped on this. I stand for the truth and do seek and share it openly. I just thought you might want to take a look at that as well.

    • Hi James,

      Thanks for the update and calling me out on this, I don’t fear accountability. I did the simple search on “roaring like a Lion and came up with three texts when I wrote this, given as that’s the song. They were Prov 28:15, Ez 22:25, I Peter 5:8.

      Rev 10:3 also speaks “and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke.” and the Hosea reference could possibly speak of a revival as it does a return, but my concern is the growing apostasy and subtle manipulations of the emerging church, to be careful, and I guess that would be my watchman’s cry.

      • I do not believe the Hosea reference is speaking of a rival. I do believe it is speaking of God’s cry to repentance and how when God is calling us to repentance with the signs and his messages we should fear God and leave behind our wicked ways. I am not totally sure though if the song is referencing it in a way that would be a fearful worship. I do not think they are using it correctly and there is something up with the song. I know if I posted something that I was mistaken about I would want someone to point it out to me. There are references to God roaring like a lion to call people to repentance. It is something to be feared and worshipped not in a non-fearful worship.

        • I know I struggled with the Hosea text first saying compassion, then roaring that causes trembling, but I’m not a judge of God’s manner. In my reply I was just trying to give the guys some credit for a textual reference, but like I said, it would really be a stretch. I’m not sure the song writer even consulted any text, just wrote something that sounded cool with the music, and that is the part that concerns, whether the group is starting the slow slide. The biography on his website is totally confusing.

          Look at all the incredulous stuff happening with “well established” ministries. Zondervon was bought by a liberal media outlet, Wheaton college takes on the liberal lean, Wycliff takes the Father, Son and Spirit out of the Muslim translations, even the name Campus Crusade for Christ is Christ-less. It’s a slow shift toward powerless general-ism.

          An ever more important time of vigilance and prayer as we anticipate the Christs soon return.

          • I totally agree with you. I do not think the song writers consulted scripture at all because it does not make since. Christian rockers are all about the show and their glory, not God’s glory. That is why Michael W Smith went from Christian rock to all gospel. I know of many ministries that have been on a slippery slope for quite a while now and it is sad. Any real famous preacher or ministries has serious problems. Fame and money have corrupted many ministries.

            I understand where you are coming from. I would like to research this topic more and write a blog about it. I took the reblog down because I did not want to tell people there was no mention of God roaring like a lion. I do not feel the song used it in an appropriate context and I do feel that this issue needs to be mentioned and discussed by true believers so we can find and expose the truth.

  5. Hi Godsfingers,
    I wanted to show my appreciation for what your writing does for me, so I nominated you for The Versatile Blogger Award:

    http://dreamsofdunamis.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/the-versatile-blogger-award/

    Blessings,
    C. Dunamis

  6. Greetings. I brought this exact concern to my husband’s attention and he directed me to your site. Your words of wisdom reassured me that I am not being oversensitive. We just never know how the evil one may try to sneak in to try to steal us away.

    • For those who have serious misgivings about this song I’ve added a link to the Newsboys page “explaining” the song. Take the time to comment there also and let them know.

  7. Hi my name is Joshua Allred I am a Christian who lives in Augusta Georgia I am broken. I fail at everything I do not worship God as I should I got kicked out of church because of my faults I have been gone for almost a year from the church. I am addicted to masturbating and I commit idolatry alot I am broken. I am unsure when God speaks to me. I am broken and I am not fixed I am pardoned (forgiven). I pray alot and sometimes I feel like the Holy Spirit is speaking to me but I ignore it because I feel crazy. I dont know much about the Bible but I do know one thing I am broken but I am forgiven through Jesus Christ who died on the cross. I have broken every commandment because I am broken and I know who I belong to and that is God i am his son and he is my Father if you want you can convict me instead of Christian Rock artist

    • I think you pretty much spammed the comment but I allowed this to show to what end some will go to defend a sound instead of defending the faith, as they should. As musicians AND “spokesman for Christ” they are responsible for what they put out. Clearly The Newsboys chose cash oven content on this one.

  8. Ok well how do you know how the are using the lion comparison? Just because that’s how you interpret it doesn’t mean that is how they meant it in the song, in Proverbs 30:30 it clearly says “the lion, which is mightiest among beasts and does not turn back before any.” Thus they could just as easily be saying that God is the mightiest among anyone, and that he will not turn back and can conquer all. Just saying…

  9. Isaiah 34:1

  10. You know what, I was just thinking about this song the other day and it really made me think. There are a lot of false prophets in Christian music. There are deceiving the masses. Your right, not once do they mention Jesus in their songs. I see a lot of these so-called Christian bands around now and I think they really promote a one-foot-in the church one-foot-in the world mentality. It makes me think that they have an alterior motive possibly Illuminati. there music has no annointing behind it, it’s not about worshiping God at all but they are worshiping something.Thanks for posting this.

  11. Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Who is this referring to?? Isn’t a lion roaring also a way of communication in the family or pride of lions?? Once saved does not the Holy Spirit live inside you and does he not guide, direct and comfort us???

  12. 1 Peter 5:8

    Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

    Jesus is NOT roaring like a lion. He is the Lion of Judah,

    I called the Christian radio station in our area because they kept playing this song many times on a day. After a third attempt I was able to speak to someone and she said she will speak with the one preparing the song and asked me to write Newsboys about this… but to this day I still kept hearing this song. Every time this is playing on the radio, I would turn off the radio. I believe this song is not inspired by the Holy Spirit.

    Anybody may justify this song but the Word of God is so clear in 1 Peter 5:8 who is the one roaring like a lion but is not a lion.

    It is better to be on the safe side, not everybody claiming Christians are really Christians. Not everything being sold or used for entertaining in the name of Christianity is of God.

    Watch out. That is why we really need to read the Holy Scripture otherwise we will be deceived. Do not forget, lucifer was a worship leader before, he knows how to do disguise himself as an angel of light.

  13. Roaring like a lion is different than the Lion. The keyword here is “like” .

  14. Hmm – not feeling like I am EASILY deceived, though like everyone i am certainly at times misled, I actually investigated this song ever so briefly on the internet for scripture references and some others thoughts in order to speak about this idea to my children and students. I am left at this time without negative concern for this particular song. The Holy Spirit is empowering to the believer. My personal favorite verse in all of scripture is Proverbs 28:1 – “The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion”. As I have always understood this verse in my heart to mean that the unrighteous are meek, timid, and continually living fear because of the “uncleaness” of their hearts, even to the point of running away from nonone, contrasted with the “righteous”. This “righteous” one is “AS BOLD AS A LION”, because he is forgiven and has a clean heart, AND because GOD the Holy Spirit has indwelt him and emboldened him in a way that is compared to the understood boldness of a Lion. I too am concerned about the Apostasy (the great delusion of our day). BUT, I am also just as greatly concerned about the delusion that has had its way for the last 2000 years and has brought great sway upon the doctrines of God through the empty, powerless, and IMPOTENT teachings of the “accepted” and “socially approved” church of today. God does in fact live on the “inside” of the believer, and He is “fierce”. JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH, OFFERED HUMBLY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION!!!

    • Thank you for your thoughts. The point being made is that the band and writer explain away by using Hosea 11:10 describing God roaring like a lion. In the context the people are in rebellion and God roars like a lion in a fearsome, terrible way bringing them to repentance and back to Him. And He only roars on the one occasion. The song says He is roaring (active) on the inside. Given that He only did it once and the song makes it a continuing thing we have an inference of a continual thing, continual rebellion and a continual roaring back into submission.

      My God’s not dead, He’s surely alive and I’m following in His footsteps, breathing His Holy Spirit, and not leading others into sin. That should be the message….

  15. As you all argue semantics, the Newsboys will continue to lead people to Christ with their music. I know people always say this is just harmless debate but honestly, this is just what Satan wants. Christians bickering and fighting against one another for the world to see. We don’t need to worry about Satan devouring us, we seem to take care of that for him.

  16. I think they are using the “roaring like a lion” as a symbol of strength and power. You guys are reading way too much into this. So now Lion’s roaring are evil? Seriously? This is nitpicking. So people can’t describe God’s power or the power of the Holy Spirit, unless it was described exactly the same way in the bible? No offense, but I don’t think this is discernment. It think this is paranoia.

  17. I must agree with the author on this one. The song is completely misguiding to young and old. Stay sober and watch, for The Day Of The Lord draws nigh.

  18. After listening to this song and looking at scripture, I can see how this song can be misleading to some. However, I take this song in a completely different context. God is always present and never far away when we need him. God also puts many trials and temptations in front of us daily. When he calls, there are times that temptations are so strong that people fall away from God. What I feel that this song is saying is that when God calls, or “roars”, we as Christians must rise up in a form of revival and rebirth and answer his call to us. As a Christian, I am not perfect and am a sinner saved by grace. I have accepted Christ and he lives in me. In my opinion, God is living in me and roars like a lion for me to live through him in everything.

    • If you mean that God uses the temptation of sin, that is not Biblical at all. God doesn’t tempt us with sin. He may allow us to go through hardships or suffer the consequence of sin, but He doesn’t tempt us to sin.

  19. (Wow.. The icon they used for me is horrible.) Anyway, I don’t see why is it wrong to use the symbolism of a roaring lion as God’s power in our life. That is a bit legalistic. The Bible uses a lot of imagery, but it doesn’t mean that same imagery and symbols can’t be used in a different way. The lion’s roar is a symbol of a lot of things, mainly power. Didn’t Aslan roar in the Chronicles of Narnia? Does that mean that C.S. Lewis was actually meaning for him to be a satanic figure instead of a Christ figure? I don’t think so.

  20. Most of the lyrics don’t sit right with me.

    First you have: “let love explode,” as if to say “let it vanish.”

    Then you have: “bring the dead to life,” which sounds like a Halloween slogan

    Next there’s: “now I’m lost in your freedom,” whereas “do what thou wilt” is satan’s motto, and it will leave you lost

    Then it says: “this world I’ll overcome,” as in he gives credit to himself, which is what the devil wants- for us to make gods of ourselves

    Also, it says: “make the darkness hide,” when the bible says to expose darkness

    And then you have the line that everyone is talking about: “he’s roaring like a lion.” I mean it’s the chorus of the song, and the line that we are most familiar with in the bible about satan roaring like a lion. I think it’s a dead giveaway that they’re referring to the devil.

    Most people just don’t know how infiltrated the work of the devil is in this world. Most would certainly not assume that he has his hands on many Christian songs, in addition to secular songs.

    I know for me, I had to learn about the Illuminati, satan’s puppets, to find that this world is indeed satan’s world. They have their hands on pretty much everything.

  21. Seriously? I grew up as a huge fan of the band, although i haven’t listened to them in about a decade- they seem pretty bland these days. I have no interest in defending this version of the band- I couldn’t be less interested in the stuff they’re putting out now.

    Maybe I’m naive, but I was always under the impression the “lion” in the song was referring to Aslan & Narnia. Or just the general “bold” nature of a lion.

    To the person who went through the song line by line- no serious Christian would hear “bring the dead to life” and take it the way you propose- and that can pretty much be said for everything you listed. I won’t take the time to go through it all, because we both know your argument is so silly that it’s not worth the time to debunk.

    You have to use a smidge of common sense- even as a non-Christian kid I was smart enough to realize they weren’t spreading alien conspiracies with “Take Me To Your Leader” or promoting the debaucherous club scene of the 70s with “Love Liberty Disco”…it was always perfectly clear what their intentions were.

    The only reason I even became a Christian was because, as a non-Christian kid going through a particularly rough time, I happened to meet one of the band members and he spent a few hours with me talking about God. Over the next few years, every time I saw the band he would talk to me about my walk with God and how I was doing- always providing encouragement.

    I know my story isn’t unique- they’re doing this stuff day in and day out. As another person mentioned, you can sit here and freak out over idiotic semantics all you want, but this band is out there actually trying to do something positive.

    I’m sorry your God is so threatened by semantics. If God can deliver a message through a donkey, I’m pretty sure He can handle some lyrics of a well-intentioned song (that doesn’t have anything wrong with it in the first place!)

    (also, I realize how old this post is, but I saw the writer boasting about its popularity in the comment section of another semantic-freakout blog post that was linked to on FB. Since this post is so popular I figured it was still worth commenting)

    • Hi Anonymous,

      Thanks for the post. Kind of a detraction but you did hit one nail on the head when you said pretty bland these days. This is where the concern comes in, the watering down, change contexts, twigging scriptures. When they were challenged about the usage then they said it was based on so and so et the so and so was in even worse context.

      The point being, if you remember the example of the frog and slow warming water, the continuing watering down and defanging the Bible is just more and more of the Rick Warren, Hybels, Osteen move toward the world church.

      It’s not like it was 20 years ago, the world is at war with Christ and His followers and we are charged by scripture NOT to let anything move us away from Him.

  22. I saw the movie last night and found it to be excellent with a strong evangelistic message. However the song hit my soul wrong as well with the regard to that part of the chorus particularly. As catchy as the tune may be I also feel it to be veiled and misleading. It sticks in the ears and refuses to leave. I was still hearing it when I awoke this morning. Believers with an ounce of discernment should be troubled by the twisting of scripture to form and support a different context.

  23. I would like the author of this blog to respond to the comment about C.S. Lewis using a Lion for God in the Chronicles of Narnia. C.S Lewis writes in his text “That when ASLAN ROARS, winter shall be no more.” This is just one reference from the books. Do you believe this is Satanic imagery as well? The bible talks of his His followers being bold like lions in Proverbs. The bible also references God as a lion as has been pointed out in this blog. Are the lions with no ability to ROAR? This statement is obviously humorous but when the imagery of a lion was used in scriptures the authors knew that the intended readers would know the qualities of lions and all of their power. The Bible can also use the imagery of a lion for Satan because of the fear that a lion strikes in its prey. The use of a lion is not evil and the use of a roaring lion is not evil either. Roaring is how a lion shows power out in the wild. Jesus spoke in parables so that the people he was talking to would understand his teachings. That is why lions were used in text, because the people that these scriptures were given to knew lions all to well. They actually lived around lions. I hope you understand my point here. I think this post is doing more to divide believers than to unite them.

    • ” I think this post is doing more to divide believers than to unite them.”

      The division comes on where you stand, as a fence sitter, the side of the deceiver or walking in the Spirit. The church is in a flux where the Great Apostasy is is full gear. Do you follow the easy apostasy or do you walk the difficult road. Recently World Vision has exposed themselves as being far far from the truth ( I’ll be writing on this) as you can get. Clinging to the word christian they’ve shown it’s about the money, and God and His Word isn’t a part of it.

      In your straw man discussion you forget the obvious, C.S. Lewis wrote fiction, maybe allegorical without a scriptural reference. On the other hand, the Boys did direct everyone to Hosea and then took liberties with the context. That was wrong and confusing given their main audience consists of those that aren’t well disciplined in the scriptures.

  24. Hosea 11:10 – They will walk after the LORD, He will roar like a lion; Indeed He will roar And His sons will come trembling from the west.

    When he shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west; the children of Israel, the children of God, his adopted ones, whom he has predestinated to the adoption of children; these, through the first impressions of Christ’s voice or word upon them, shall startle, and be set a trembling, and be astonished, as Saul was, when called and converted; as it is reported of the lion, that, when it roars, other beasts are so terrified that they are quite stunned and amazed, and are not able to stir; but though the first sound of the voice of Christ may have some effect upon the Jews, yet this will not cause them to tremble at him so as to flee from him, but to cause them to flee to him: for the phrase is expressive of motion towards him, and to their own land, as appears from Hosea 11:11; when filled with a sense of his majesty and grace, they shall approach him with a holy awe of him, with fear and trembling: or “come with honour” (h); agreeably to 1 Samuel 16:4; having high, honourable, and grand sentiments and apprehensions of him; so that this trembling, at least, issues in a godly and filial fear and reverence of him, suitable to their character as children. The phrase, “from the west”, or “from the sea” (i), meaning the Mediterranean sea, which lay west of Judea, and is often used for the west, may signify the western or European part of the world, where the Jews for the most part are, and from whence they will be gathered

  25. This is my concern…. I actually really like the song ‘Like a Lion’ by Daniel Bashta. So I looked up Daniel Bashta and read about him. Then I looked at his Twitter page so see a photo. Immediately, red flags came up screaming. He has the one hand highlighting over one eye Illuminati sign for his main photo! It could not possibly be more obvious! Then, as if that isn’t enough, he is holding up a lion head in a photo, and it is covering one eye. Then, I noticed his record label is called “Illuminate”. Wow. Frightening, really.

  26. When the Newsboys first became popular in Christian circles, their lyrics were more godly. But after one of their band members left, things then changed. Now their music is not really Christian anymore. Sad…

    Thank you for the review.

  27. The lord came as a lamb seeking conciliation, offering salvation, got slain, resurrected and stayed with us although out of sight, and when he will let himself be known to all again it will be as a lion. Now does a lion not roar? Rest assure he will roar like no one has ever seen before. One thing he very little like in particular is self proclaimers.

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